Will Forrest
2 min readJun 9, 2021

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Again, my point is that JP isn’t necessarily a Trump supporter/misogynist in the zealous sense, although if you have any inclination to vote for such a subhuman piece of shit IMO it’s telling of someone’s character — -but whatever, we can leave that point aside. It’s that because of these comments and not condemnation of clearly fascist behavior he ENABLES the “unwholesome fan base”. Obviously this is a hard thing to measure so to frame it I said (using JPs own terms) “in my estimation” and personal experience. But regardless, it’s the same thing as Trump saying he doesn’t know David Duke and the KKK, which absolves him of collaborating with them, but he doesn’t refute their position which ultimately gives them power and makes Trump happy because at least some one likes him.

It’s hypocritical to be so aggressive going after the left’s cancel culture and then to be like “well, I’d probably vote for Trump!”. Not only is it hypocritical, but it’s IRRESPONSIBLE as a public intellectual figure to be misrepresenting the left’s position and calling it “another form of communism”. See the Zizek debate where it’s exposed he hasn’t done any basic research beyond an Ayn Randian-level understanding of the issue and makes Marxism out to be this bogeyman that is farcical. This is what the left is saying, that he’s misrepresenting their position. Yes, cancel culture is a problem. No, it’s not Stalinism, and equating as such shows how little homework he’s done — -revealing his desire for fame over being a true intellectual like Zizek.

This is ironic because his entire message is “be responsible” yet he’s abdicating his own position. It’s hilarious to me you’ve done the same and misrepresented my own position by saying I think JP is a far-right troll. No, I said before he’s right about cancel culture to a certain degree, but takes it too far and out of context which attracts right-wingers and fans the fire of fascism. As you point out, he’s been ambivalent towards both candidates because he thinks they are both the same evil, and I’m arguing this is a form of subtle support because one side is demonstrably far worse than the other. Therefore, his ambivalence is cowardice and irresponsible. Clinton obviously isn’t good, but a hell of lot better than fascism, and that’s what the left is trying to say.

I feel like I’m just going to repeat myself further if there’s more responses, and I’m not sure why I’m spending so much time on this, but here’s some links that eloquently point out the political and intellectual problems with JP’s positions — -which is sort of separate from his message of redundant yin/yang dualism and clean your room or whatever and why non-reactionary cancel culture leftists find JP abrasive.

https://medium.com/the-abs-tract-organization/the-detraction-of-jordan-peterson-49a6b64a2bdf

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